Talk:Unspoiled Overview

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The character links on this page should point to unspoiled information about the characters

That would be nice, but its a lot of work creating 2 virtually parallel sites with only minor differences in the spoiler data. Actually we need to make an entire spoiler-free page for this, preferably completely self contained with breif details on the characters but no outside links. --RC

Rather than make both spoiled and unspoiled character pages, just use the {{spoiler}} tag to simply seperate information and hope people don't read below it. Not the best idea overall, but it's not worth the tradeoff and hassle of maintaining two distinct sets of information (unless someone wants to, say, make a template for each basic character bio which could itself be the unspoiled overview --Sanfam

Such is my suggestion. See my discussion on the Main Page for a similar format for the episode pages.--Patton1138 07:53, 22 Feb 2005 (CST)

About the cast edits done recently:

1) It was my impression that Ardwright Chamberlain was the voice of Kosh in the series. Not sure about "In the Beginning," though. Someone with proper resources please verify. And it is "Naranek," not "Maranek," right?
2) Keffer died in season 2, so there was no way he could be in season 3, right?
3) Lyta Alexander's entry is too confusing for me to figure out if there's anything wrong with it... :)

-- MikhailM

It is indeed Naranek. It was, I believe, Ulkesh and Naranek - Sanfam

Checked around Lurkers and JMS news—this is what I found:

1. Ardwight was the voice of Kosh Naranek and the Vorlon on Minbar in War Without End, not positive about the 2nd Kosh. 2nd Kosh is named Ulkesh Naranek. (JMS post: [1]). Therefore Naranek is NOT the name of the 1st Kosh. Rather Kosh is the name and Naranek is the title. Ulkesh assumed the name Kosh. (Ok, I admit I am confused...)

2. Keffer died, yes.

3. Lyta - I fixed it. Lots of errors there. Just about all the season references were off. She returned in Season 3 (near the start) as Kosh's assistant, though she was a guest star in Season 2 - I didn't list that.

 

--Randomchaos 18:04, 12 Apr 2005 (CDT)

 

As for the "we are all Kosh" statement by Ulkesh: http://www.jmsnews.com/msg.aspx?id=1-615

 

--Randomchaos 20:30, 12 Apr 2005 (CDT)

1) Tried fixing... unfortunately, I don't remember which season the first Kosh died, so please fix my season reference if it's wrong. Still unsure about the other actor, never heard of him before...

2) Fixed.

3) OK, a bit easier to understand now, thanks. :)

-- MikhailM

Oh - I just realized: Why is Kosh Naranek and Ulkesh Naranek coming into play on the "unspoiled" page? The 2nd Kosh (Ulkesh) would be a spoiler in my opinion. --Randomchaos 20:35, 12 Apr 2005 (CDT)

2nd Kosh isn't mentioned here. Technically, if you go by that, some of the Lyta entry is a spoiler too. By some more stretching, I can say the same about Sheridan and Zack Allan (btw, is it Allan or Allen?). It all depends on your definition of spoiler, I guess. I'd let it stay as is. -- MikhailM

Well, true; It is Zack Allen according to Lurkers. I'll go check in on Kosh. --Randomchaos 08:59, 14 Apr 2005 (CDT)